Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/03/1993 10:00 AM House JUD

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  HB 18:  FEES FOR POLICE PROTECTION BY STATE                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER announced that the committee would take up                   
  HB 18 first.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 021                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. CON BUNDE, PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 18, stated that HB 18                    
  provided a mechanism for local communities without police                    
  protection or without a desired level of police protection                   
  to form service areas and obtain the desired level of police                 
  protection.  Under HB 18, the service areas would be                         
  provided with a cost estimate by the Department of Public                    
  Safety (DPS).  The residents of a certain area would then                    
  vote to accept the costs before a service area was formed.                   
  At that point, DPS would begin providing services, and                       
  residents of the service area would be assessed fees.                        
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE stressed that residents of a service area would                   
  determine the level of police protection provided to them.                   
  He stated his intention that all areas of the state have                     
  access to a certain level of police protection, or have the                  
  ability to augment existing services.  He expressed his                      
  opinion that the fiscal note provided by DPS was inaccurate,                 
  because it was too early to determine the size and magnitude                 
  of the service areas residents would want.  He also noted                    
  the pressing need for HB 18 because of anticipated budget                    
  cuts at DPS, including a 39% reduction of force in the                       
  Anchorage state troopers post.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 151                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER RICHARD BURTON, from DPS, joined the committee                  
  to testify in opposition to HB 18.  He stated that the                       
  fiscal note provided by his department was accurate, based                   
  on estimates for a force provided on the Anchorage Hillside.                 
  He stated that DPS was not providing an adequate level of                    
  service for the Hillside, as well as other areas of Alaska,                  
  but commented that HB 18 was not the solution in the                         
  administration's point of view.  He stated that it was bad                   
  public policy for a portion of a home-rule, first-class                      
  municipality like Anchorage to refuse to pay for local                       
  service, but to try and compel the state to provide trooper                  
  service at a lower cost.  He also noted two flaws in the                     
  bill, the first allowing residents in an area already with                   
  police service the opportunity to contract for state trooper                 
  service, the second being the ambiguity of language                          
  involving the level of service determinations.                               
                                                                               
  Number 258                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JEANNETTE JAMES asked if HB 18 might also be used to                    
  provide state trooper protection for the Healy area in the                   
  Denali Borough.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 266                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER BURTON stated that Healy was an unincorporated                  
  area, with no structured government.  He asked rhetorically                  
  who would sign the checks, collect the fees and assess the                   
  contract level in such an area.                                              
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES asked if HB 18 might open the door to providing                   
  such service in the future.                                                  
                                                                               
  (CHAIRMAN PORTER noted the arrival of Rep. Kott and Rep.                     
  Davidson at 10:22 a.m.)                                                      
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER BURTON stated that under the Alaska                             
  Constitution, the legislature could sit as an assembly for                   
  unincorporated boroughs, which he stated that the body ought                 
  to do, in his opinion.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 296                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON asked if HB 18 was an attempt to allow                         
  Hillside residents to continue to receive police protection                  
  from DPS for free.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 307                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER BURTON stated that he could not say that.  He                   
  noted that the state could do the work cheaper than the City                 
  of Anchorage had estimated that an expansion in service                      
  would cost.                                                                  
                                                                               
  (CHAIRMAN PORTER noted the arrival of Rep. Nordlund at 10:24                 
  a.m.)                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 314                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON asked if a Village Public Safety Officer                       
  (VPSO) styled program might be an option for areas like the                  
  Anchorage Hillside.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 323                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER BURTON stated that the VPSO program would not                   
  apply to such an area.  Besides that, in an unincorporated                   
  area, the barriers to collecting money for the service would                 
  still exist.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 330                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS asked for a brief history of the Hillside                      
  police dispute for those who did not live in the Anchorage                   
  area.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 338                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER BURTON outlined the history of the three areas                  
  within the state with unified governments (combined                          
  municipality and borough), and noted that some had claimed                   
  the right in their charters to establish police service                      
  unilaterally, and then assess taxes.  In the case of                         
  Anchorage, when the governments were combined, no such claim                 
  was made to establish police services and assess taxes, and                  
  that it has never been done since.                                           
                                                                               
  Number 374                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER, a former police chief in Anchorage, further                 
  explained that when the City of Anchorage and the borough                    
  combined, the city provided services within the city limits                  
  that were not provided in certain areas of the borough.  He                  
  explained that the charter was written so that some areas                    
  were to be set aside as separate service areas and that the                  
  city could provide service if the entire municipality voted                  
  to do so, and if the service area agreed.  He noted that the                 
  issue of police service in the Hillside and Girdwood service                 
  areas had gone to the voters at least three or four times,                   
  and had passed the borough, but not the service areas.  Now,                 
  he said, the latest sales tax provision would provide for                    
  police service districts outside the Hillside, which meant                   
  that for Hillside residents to benefit from the area wide                    
  tax, they would have to vote in favor of the police service.                 
                                                                               
  Number 415                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON asked why the municipality always voted in                     
  favor of police service but the Hillside did not.                            
                                                                               
  Number 424                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER stated that one reason was the "home-car"                    
  program, in which Anchorage Police Department (APD) officers                 
  were allowed to take patrol vehicles home, and that the                      
  Hillside benefited because many APD officers lived there.                    
                                                                               
  Number 450                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS stated that in her experience with municipal                   
  governments, she had noticed that when a referendum was                      
  taken on an issue involving permission, it usually passed                    
  easily, but when money was on the line, it did not.                          
                                                                               
  Number 459                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER BURTON had a final comment.  He noted that DPS                  
  at one time had eleven patrol contracts in a number of                       
  Alaska cities, and that the arrangement proved to be                         
  inoperable.  He stated that under this arrangement, troopers                 
  were being called before local authorities and told they                     
  were not expected to enforce certain laws against certain                    
  residents.  He stated that DPS simply could not serve two                    
  masters.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 492                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON stated that it appeared to him that HB 18 was                  
  addressing a local problem that should be addressed locally.                 
  He said that with the budget difficulty facing DPS, he could                 
  not support HB 18.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 504                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JOHN DAVIES joined the committee to oppose HB 18.  He                   
  said that HB 18 appeared to be unconstitutional under                        
  Article Ten, Section Eight of the Alaska Constitution,                       
  because that article prohibited the establishment of a                       
  service area if the area in question could have service                      
  provided through the annexation of an existing service area,                 
  or incorporation into a city.                                                
                                                                               
  Number 521                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE rejoined the committee to clarify some points.                    
  He noted that HB 18 did not address just the Hillside, but                   
  that Healy, Wasilla, Juneau and other areas had similar                      
  problems.  He noted that Girdwood was part of the                            
  Municipality of Anchorage, and had adopted only the services                 
  it wanted.  Consequently, the area did not pay for many                      
  municipal services, including police services.                               
                                                                               
  Number 587                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON asked about the apparent constitutionality                     
  issue raised by Rep. Davies, and why a similar contract                      
  offer could not be made to the municipality.                                 
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE stated that HB 18 would provide residents with                    
  the greatest possible latitude to contract with whomever                     
  they wanted.  He cited an Alaska Municipal League (AML)                      
  study on government roles.  He explained the AML's support                   
  of a change to Title 29 to allow such contracts, and said                    
  that he did not see a problem in making such a change.                       
                                                                               
  Number 625                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON asked if a statute change was needed for the                   
  Hillside to contract with the municipality.                                  
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE stated that it would not be needed.  REP.                         
  PHILLIPS concurred.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 632                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIDSON moved to hold HB 18 in committee in order to                   
  determine if there was a need from other areas in the state.                 
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS objected.                                                      
                                                                               
  THE MOTION TO TABLE HB 18 failed by a 4-3 vote with Reps.                    
  Davidson, Nordlund and Porter voting to table and Reps.                      
  Phillips, Kott, Green and James voting not to table.                         
                                                                               
  Number 647                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS moved passage of HB 18 from the committee.                     
                                                                               
  HOUSE BILL 18 was PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE by a 4-3 vote with                 
  Reps. Green, Kott, Phillips and James voting yes and Reps.                   
  Davidson, Nordlund and Porter voting no.                                     

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